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[1] Submitted by: HJ on Wednesday November 6th 2002

Mozdev.org is our OpenSource community and one of the thing you MUST do is placing the source on the site with the used license, you still seem to miss that. Also note that we, QuickPrefs already offer this, same counts for MultiZilla so why start a new project instead of working on current implementations?

However, good to have to on mozdev.org
Good Luck and happy programming

/HJ

[2] Submitted by: Ed on Saturday November 9th 2002

How do you uninstall this?

[3] Submitted by: GuruJ on Sunday November 10th 2002

To uninstall Preferential:
1) Close any running instances of Mozilla
2) Go to the 'chrome' directory of your Mozilla install, select the 'preferential.jar' file, and delete it.

[4] Submitted by: GuruJ on Sunday November 10th 2002

To uninstall Preferential:
1) Close any running instances of Mozilla
2) Go to the 'chrome' directory of your Mozilla install, select the 'preferential.jar' file, and delete it.

[5] Submitted by: Sergey on Monday November 11th 2002

Can't get it working on 1.2b for OS/2.
Nothing like shown in shots doen't appear in menu.

[6] Submitted by: Sergey on Monday November 11th 2002

Ooops, sorry!
It shows:

XML parsing error: undefined entity
Location: chrome://preferential/content/preferential.xul

<menu id="main-menu" labell="&menuMain.label;">
----^

I couldnt copy original message, so may some mistakes took place.

[7] Submitted by: Sergey on Monday November 11th 2002

Ooops, sorry!
It shows:

XML parsing error: undefined entity
Location: chrome://preferential/content/preferential.xul

<menu id="main-menu" labell="&menuMain.label;">
----^

I couldnt copy original message, so may some mistakes took place.

[8] Submitted by: TroubleMaker on Tuesday November 12th 2002

Just installed 2002-11-12: Preferential 0.2.1 (Bugfix)

Opens only empty window - with menu and empty listbox... :-(

[9] Submitted by: TroubleMaker on Tuesday November 12th 2002

Hmmm... after dl-ing Mozilla 2002111211 all become normal. I'm just happy. :-)

[10] Submitted by: GuruJ on Wednesday November 13th 2002

Ah, great -- nice to see you got it working. Let me know if you have any other features you'd like to see in Preferential.

[11] Submitted by: TroubleMaker on Thursday November 14th 2002

Now (on 2002111308) it looks a little "hebrewish" - columns in the window are: (left to right)
type, status, value, name, description
I don't know happened :)

As to wishlist:

1. _Resizable_ _window_!!!

2. edit-in-place or at least edit on double-click

3. sortable and re-arrangeable columns

4. bookmarking or position marking system

5. _undo_!!!

It's all wishes for now :) Thank you!

[12] Submitted by: TroubleMaker on Thursday November 14th 2002

one more wish: I don't know if it's possible, but... but it would be good idea to have few more tree controls: "expand/contract entire branch with sub-branches"
(the tree itself also may be concidered as a branch)

[13] Submitted by: Sergey on Friday November 15th 2002

0.2.1
Shows epmty window.
'Preference->New' does nothing

[14] Submitted by: Tsahi on Friday November 15th 2002

i was waiting for an add-on of this kind. but looking at the screen shots, i think you should re-think about the design. what does "accesibility.tabfocus" mean? you should put it all in preferences panels, like the current preferences panel mozilla has, so people can understand what each preference mean. and preferably, put it inside the mozilla prefereces panel.

[15] Submitted by: James Paige on Thursday November 21st 2002

I install the XPI, and restart the browser as directed, but "Advanced Preferences" fails to appear in my "Edit" menu. (I am using Linux, and a 1.2b+ nightly)

[16] Submitted by: Erik Harris on Sunday November 24th 2002

How long should this take to start the first time, and does it work in Moz 1.2a? I get "Building Tree..." and a moving bar at the bottom when I try to go to my "Advanced Preferences." I can let it build the tree for 30-40 minutes and nothing happens.

[17] Submitted by: Erik Arvidsson on Monday November 25th 2002

Nice one,

A few comments:

Please add splitters between columns and persist the ordinal.

Make double click open up the edit pref dialog.

This should really replace the about:config at some point.

[18] Submitted by: Rob H on Wednesday November 27th 2002

I get the same as Erik Harris on 1.2 final.

[19] Submitted by: GuruJ on Thursday November 28th 2002

Rob H/Erik H,

It sounds like you are getting a JavaScript error of some sort. Try this:

* In a browser window, click Tools -> Web Development -> JavaScript Console. Click 'Clear'.
* Return to your original browser window, and click Edit -> Advanced Preferences.
* Return to the window entitled JavaScript console, and report any messages you see here.

Thanks! GuruJ.

[20] Submitted by: ndebord on Thursday November 28th 2002

Sure wish you could get together with K-Meleon developers and port this app to K-Meleon.

N

[21] Submitted by: Nige on Sunday December 1st 2002

Hi - excellent extension.

Just one more request - could you either make it available from a button (that works with Phoenix customisable toolbars) or if not, make it available from the Edit menu in the mail/news window too. I use Moz for mail and Phoenix for web browsing (looking forwards to Thunderbird/Minotaur) so it's a ain having to start a moz browser window to get to Advanced Prefs...

Keep up the good work.

[22] Submitted by: stewlevine on Sunday December 1st 2002

I get the same Building Tree problem in 1.2 final; here is what the JavaScript console says for me
Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED) [nsIPrefBranch.getBoolPref]" nsresult: "0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://preferential/content/preferential.js :: prefLoadTree :: line 157" data: no]

[23] Submitted by: GuruJ on Thursday December 12th 2002

ndebord -
You still should be able to access Preferential in K-Meleon if the XPI installs OK. In your browser, type:
chrome://preferential/content/preferential.xul and then bookmark the page that loads.

nige -
I checked into your request -- unfortunately, Mozilla currently doesn't identify the 'Edit' menupopup by name in Messenger. This makes it impossible (as far as I am aware) to add entries to the 'Edit' menu. I have submitted a bug to Mozilla re: this problem.

[24] Submitted by: Ron on Wednesday December 18th 2002

Please help - Here is the message from java script console - Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED) [nsIPrefBranch.getCharPref]" nsresult: "0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://preferential/content/preferential.js :: prefLoadTree :: line 178" data: no]

[25] Submitted by: Ron (again) on Saturday December 21st 2002

Help!

[26] Submitted by: Ron (again) on Saturday December 21st 2002

Nevermind....It is working. I love it!

Ron

[27] Submitted by: Ken on Sunday December 29th 2002

RFE: This is a great tool, but it would be even better if it could filter or find. I especially like the way that the bookmarks work in Phoenix to filter on keyword (Moz Mail shows the same behavior). Any plans for such features?

[28] Submitted by: GuruJ on Monday December 30th 2002

Ken,

Both Filtering and Finding are slated for inclusion in the next release of Preferential.

[29] Submitted by: Fred Yontz on Thursday January 2nd 2003

First, at the top of this Notes page, you say that if one wants a response, provide an e-mail address, but since there is no e-mail address entry box, it is not clear where to put it.

For the Preferential - Advanced Preferences Configuration window, it would be nice to have a horizontal scroll bar, so that columns could be expanded to show more of the Name, Value, and Description and still be able to see all the text. As the font size in this window appears to be unchangeable much of either or both the Value and Description fields can't be seen.

You might also consider using a different font color for default and user set values, a very handy feature of the about:config browser window. And the Edit Preference window cuts off the bottom half of the OK & Cancel buttons.

[30] Submitted by: dirk on Friday January 3rd 2003

great work! dl /

[31] Submitted by: asbin on Sunday January 5th 2003

I've posted a bug for localization :
http://mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=2841

When you make a New Preference, the Boolean Value is "true" or "False", and those two texts are not already localizated...
I suppose it's yust a mistake...

Very good addon !!!
;-]

[32] Submitted by: Wolfi on Saturday January 11th 2003

Please join your efforts with HJ and the Multizilla/Quickpres team.
One of the real bad things here at Mozdev that I found as a simple user-only, that there often are a confusing number of projects, sometimes *really* great ideas, many of them targeting the same or very similar goals and unfortunately after a few months, they quietly die, like Total-Recall/Aphrodite, that very regrettably doesn't work right any more with latest nightlies.

So please, don't try to invent the wheel over and over again in different groups, but join your ideas and visions and put your common effort in building the *car*.

[33] Submitted by: GuruJ on Sunday January 12th 2003

Hi Wolfi,

Thanks for your feedback. I understand that the QuickPrefs team are pursuing a project similar to mine, but I feel that our goals are sufficiently different to be worth pursuing separately.

In this case, QuickPrefs is not designed to allow *every* pref to be edited, nor to provide comprehensive help on each preference. Preferential is designed to be a reference guide as well as an Advanced Preferences Editor.

[34] Submitted by: joe on Friday January 31st 2003

Looks REALLY useful! Is there an option somewhere that will prevent browsing of the local hardrive when the user types / or c: into the URL field?

Thanks!

[35] Submitted by: Rasselas on Monday February 3rd 2003

Thanks, Thanks, Thanks, Thanks! So many options it makes me poor head spin! Maybe just a tad more description on some of the items (like what is browsing with a caret (cursor))? All the same, very useful program and though it looks intimidating it doens't take a brain to figure out the gist of it. Thanks again!

[36] Submitted by: Rasselas on Monday February 3rd 2003

PS... Wolfi (a couple a posts ago said):

"Please join your efforts with HJ and the Multizilla/Quickpres team.
One of the real bad things here at Mozdev that I found as a simple user-only, that there often are a confusing number of projects, sometimes *really* great ideas, many of them targeting the same or very similar goals and unfortunately after a few months, they quietly die, like Total-Recall/Aphrodite, that very regrettably doesn't work right any more with latest nightlies.

So please, don't try to invent the wheel over and over again in different groups, but join your ideas and visions and put your common effort in building the *car*."

I somewhat agree and though I read your reply, I wonder if you have seen the new release of quickprefs which includes as the second option in the menu "Preference Editor"??? It has all 1130 options available for editing... fairly similar see?

It's preference editor is very similar, just that it does not include folders and subfolders, descriptions of what the preferences do, doesn't have automatic subset choices for things like "1=never, 2=always". Also, you can't create or delete preferences

On the plus side, their menu loads quite a bit faster (albeit i admit i drive a celeron 400mhz) AND it has a "Restore to Default" button which to me is very handy and reassuring.

Other than that, your all's preference editors are very similar to me (on the whole) at the MOMENT. I'm sure you plan on updating yours alot though (but then, so do they). Just throwing something at you cause they have a great team over there and maybe you would want to combine forces in your quests to take over planet moz.

:)

Or not, all the same, wonderful plug! Thanks again, and thanks to all who submit bugs and preference descriptions!

[37] Submitted by: DJ on Tuesday February 25th 2003

This is a really helpful capability, but it is not always obvious what the preferences actually *do*. For instance, what exactly does mailnews.nav_crosses_folders do, and what are the valid integer values? Or network.protocol-handler.external.hcp ?

Is there some documentation of these? (outside of the source tree, that is?)

Thx

[38] Submitted by: Andreas on Tuesday February 25th 2003

*** Failed to load overlay chrome://preferential/content/preferential-nav-overlay.xul

This is the warning I get after I install Preferential as root on NS7.02 and then launch NS7.02 as regular user. It works as root. The NS7.02 install is the one straight from NS on Redhat7.3. To me it seems like a bug because I did not do anything special. Well, I decided not to use it anyways :)

Thanks for reading,

Andreas

[39] Submitted by: GuruJ on Sunday March 2nd 2003

Thanks for your comments, DJ & Andreas.

DJ: That's the biggest problem with Mozilla preferences, in that many of them can be obtuse at best or outright misleading or broken at worst. We're attempting to document as many of these preferences as possible. If a preference has a description, try right-clicking and selecting "Edit Preference". If there are known options (eg. editor.css.default_length_unit), you will be given a drop-down list of these options and what each means.

We're not there yet by any means, but be patient!

Andreas: I've just updated the FAQ (under Documentation) to deal with this issue. I'm not running a Linux machine here, so the Linux permissions aren't correct. Setting permissions to chmod -R 644 * seems to fix this problem.

[40] Submitted by: veera on Thursday March 6th 2003

A Search facility, please.

I was tyring to lookup the typeahead preferences; I know they exist. But I couldnt find where they are.

Thanks! preferential is a pleasure to use!

[41] Submitted by: Posicionamiento on Monday March 17th 2003

Hi from Spain!!

[42] Submitted by: chris.sharman@ccagro on Monday March 24th 2003

Adv.Prefs is empty. moz 1.3 final, preferential 4.3.
newsgroup doesn't seem to exist (on my server).
Error (on js console):
Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED) [nsIPrefBranch.getCharPref]" nsresult: "0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://preferential/content/preferential.js :: prefLoadTree :: line 187" data: no]

[43] Submitted by: chris.sharman@ccagro on Monday March 24th 2003

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[44] Submitted by: krell on Friday April 4th 2003

I would really like to know where I can do the allow resizable frame feature

[45] Submitted by: jonh on Friday April 11th 2003

yeah...a search facility would be great

[46] Submitted by: GuruJ on Friday April 11th 2003

As it happens, Preferential 0.5 (released 2003-04-10) now has a search facility. Not very complicated yet, but it's certainly an improvement over nothing...!

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[52] Submitted by: Neil Parks on Friday May 16th 2003

Preferential has not worked with recent versions of Phoenix and Firebird. The "advanced prefs" option is added to the Tools menu, but when I click on it, Preferential opens a blank window.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030515 Mozilla Firebird/0.6

Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED) [nsIPrefBranch.getIntPref]" nsresult: "0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://preferential/content/preferential.js :: prefLoadTree :: line 175" data: no]

[53] Submitted by: Amerk_5 on Friday May 16th 2003

Neil, what was the last version of FB that Preferential worked with? I'm using an older build & it works fine.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030429 Mozilla Firebird/0.6

[54] Submitted by: Amerk_5 on Saturday May 17th 2003

It works in the 0.6 milestone for me too.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030516 Mozilla Firebird/0.6

[55] Submitted by: Cantello on Sunday May 18th 2003

Preferential 0.5 does not work for me neither. Opens a blank window and displays 'building tree' as status.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030516 Mozilla Firebird/0.6

[56] Submitted by: MattK on Monday May 19th 2003

It's not working for me either under Firebird 0.6. Here's what I get:

Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED) [nsIPrefBranch.getIntPref]" nsresult: "0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://preferential/content/preferential.js :: prefLoadTree :: line 175" data: no]

[57] Submitted by: GuruJ on Sunday May 25th 2003

Thanks for all those who alerted me to the problems with Preferential under FireBird 0.6! I don't generally run FireBird builds, so I didn't catch it immediately.

However, the problem should be resolved with the release of Preferential 0.5.1.

[58] Submitted by: thatguy on Thursday May 29th 2003

then there's the preference toolbar from XULplanet.com

[59] Submitted by: Mats Palmgren on Tuesday July 1st 2003

Tried out 0.5.2 - it looks really good!
I would like to see this replacing the current about:config

A couple of minor points:
"Find Next F3" should be "Find Again Ctrl+G"
"Close Ctrl+Q" should be "Close Ctrl+W"
for consistency with Mozilla menus...

Keep up the good work!

[60] Submitted by: Janet on Wednesday July 16th 2003

Yep, 0.5.2 looks good.

Janet

[61] Submitted by: buckminster on Saturday July 19th 2003

0.5.3 doesn't seem to work with the Thunderbird... it's listed in the extensions, but I don't see it available to use anywhere. It's installed in my user profile.

Win32, Mozilla Thunderbird 0.1a (20030716)

[62] Submitted by: GuruJ on Sunday July 20th 2003

Thanks for the feedback. Sorry -- there was a small bug in 0.5.3 that stops Preferential working properly under Thunderbird. Please download 0.5.3a to fix the problem.

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I was using version 0.5.3 and had some problems but after upgrading to 0.5.3a it now works like a charm. Good job.

John

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